# Category Archive: Automobiles

## Saving For A Car

I drive a 2001 Honda Accord.  It’s a great little car.  Right now, it has a little over 175,000 miles on it.  Sooner or later (let’s hope, later) I’m going to need to buy a newer automobile.  Here’s my process for saving for a car – or any other major purchase.

1.  Using the super-handy You Need a Budget software, I create a budget category labeled: Automobile Replacement.

2.  I estimate the number of months between now and my plan-to-purchase date.

3.  I then estimate the cost of the replacement vehicle.

4.  I divide the estimated cost by the estimated number of of months.  This tells me how much I need to save, each month, to reach my savings goal.

In effect, I’ve created a monthly “payment”.  Instead of paying the bank or the finance company – I’m paying myself.

I like to automate the process.  I use our Ing Direct Savings Account to set up an automatic monthly withdrawal – for the “payment” amount.  I deposit my paycheck in our local bank, the automatic withdrawal occurs a few days later, and I’m one month closer to reaching my goal.

Now, obviously, there are some things to consider:

First, it’s rather difficult to estimate the exact cost of a future purchase, especially a purchase that may be several months (or even years) down the road.  My system (rather imperfect, but something to work with) is to find the average price of the automobile I want, today, and then add 5% to that price, for each year that I’ll be saving.  If the car costs \$10,000 today and I plan to purchase the “same” care in 3 years, my goal will be \$11,500.  Again, this is a very rough estimate and doesn’t take in to account compounding, but it’s a number to work with.

Second, it’s also difficult to tell just how much my current car will be worth, when it’s time to sell it or trade it.  So, for me personally, I just leave it out of the equation.  Why?  I would rather over-save (is that a word?) than under-save.  Plus, even if I buy something newer, I might just keep my little car.  If I knew that the future price of my current car was going to be rather significant, I might consider that when creating my savings goal.  As it stands, I’ll just save for the newer car – and decide at the time of the future purchase, whether to sell the old car or not.

Third, I might need a newer car before I’ve reached my savings goal.  Again, it’s difficult to be in the prediction-game.  My Accord is running quite well and gets me, comfortably, from place to place.  Ten months from now, this might no longer be true.  The goal is to be prepared, as much as I can, given the facts that I currently have before me.  I cannot be (overly-) concerned about things that I cannot control.  I prepare for a certain reality and adjust as needed.

Fourth, I really don’t worry too much about the interest rate that I’m getting on my savings.  Right now (as you well know) – most rates are very low.  In the past, like when I started this blog, it was fun to get 4 to 6 percent rates – and I would use them when calculating how much I’d have in x number of months.  Now, I just focus on principal and consider any interest earned as a bonus.

By creating a monthly “payment” – to myself – I do two things.  One, I am assured that I will reach my savings goal.  Two, I keep myself from spending “extra” money on frivolous things.  One of the distinct dangers, oddly associated with being consumer-debt free, is the fact that, without monthly obligations to creditors, it is easy to be wasteful.  By creating a series of budget categories, under the heading of savings, an saving for specific things, every dollar has a name, every dollar has a purpose.

There is a side-benefit to saving for specific goals and specific purchases.  We have savings categories labeled – Appliance Replacement, Furniture Replacement, Automobile Replacement, etc.  Each category is funded, monthly.  Once a category has been “fully-funded” – the money that was going into that category, is directed into another category.  In effect, we are “snowballing” our savings goals – just like we did with our debt reduction.  That 36-months goal might become a 30-months goal, or even a 24-months goal, depending on how quickly we fully-fund other categories.

One last note – We didn’t have savings categories until we paid off our last consumer debt.  Instead, we used every penny (above our emergency fund) to pay off debt.  The interest rates charged by our creditors were higher than the rate we could achieve in savings, so it made sense, mathematically and emotionally, to get out of debt.

## Planning To Replace My Old Car

I own a 2001 Honda Accord.  It’s a great little car, and even though it’s a decade old, it still gets really great gas mileage.  The paint and the interior are both in pretty decent shape, despite the fact that the right-front panel was recently damaged and repaired.  I like the car, but with growing kids and the fact that it has nearly 200,000 miles, it’s time to think about replacing it.

It never hurts to plan ahead – even years ahead – so that’s what I’m doing.

I’ve already started to compile a list of used vehicles that I might want to purchase.  I want to buy something a little bigger than the accord, maybe a small cross-over or a mid-size SUV.  I’ll be comparing gas mileage, insurance cost, safety information, etc.

I have created a budget category labeled – car replacement – and I’ll fund it each month.  Instead of making payments to a finance company, and paying interest, I’ll be making payments to myself, and earning interest.  My plan is to save up 100% of the cost of the newer car and avoid financing.

I have a good relationship with my insurance agent.  When purchasing a newer automobile, it’s very important to know how much it will cost to insure the automobile.  I’ll take a list of four or five automobiles to him.  My agent will run the numbers and let me know how much it would cost to insure each.

The Accord is in good shape and I hope to keep it for a minimum of 3 years.  At that time, I’ll consider selling it, trading it, or keeping it.  My oldest daughter is almost 11 years old.  In just over 5 years, she’ll be ready to get her license.  It would be great if the Accord makes it that long, even if she just uses it for a little while, as she learns to drive.

Obviously, if I want the Accord to last 3 (or more) years, I need to continue to maintain it.  I’ve recently had new tires put on it.  I change the oil and have it serviced on a regular schedule.  Fingers-crossed, when I’m ready for the newer car in a few years, the Accord will still be in good shape, ready to be sold, traded – or kept.

Living the debt-free life, it’s imperative that I plan – plan – and then plan some more.  There’s always something to think about, something to prepare for, something that will need replacing.  Saving enough cash to pay for the things we want keeps us out of debt – and in the long-run – save us money!

## The Best Thing About My Old Truck

I have this old truck – a 1994 Ford.  (It’s not THAT old, but at 15 years, it has its share of scrapes and dings.)  I use it, mainly, to haul off the trash, but it’s also good for towing a trailer or bringing home supplies from the lumber yard.

I bought the truck, used, almost 10 years ago.  I really like my old truck.  It’s not much to look at, but it’s fun to drive and it gets me where I need to go.

Recently, I had a couple of truck-related.  It needed some pretty major engine work, several other parts (like the brakes and belts) needed to be replaced, and it needed new tires.  I thought, very briefly, about replacing the truck with a newer model – but quickly decided not do so.

Instead of replacing the truck, I had it repaired.  A good friend of mine is a mechanic, and he fixed the engine and replaced the worn out belts and brakes.  Two days ago, I had a new set of tires put on it.  It’s now running, in my opinion, better than it has in years.

The best thing about my truck – honestly – is the fact that it’s paid for.  It’s mine.  I own it.  Sure, it’s old, a little beat up, and requires some attention, but, again, it’s paid for.  For the cost of two, maybe three, car payments, I was able to get my old truck fixed, put a good set of tires on it, and keep it road-ready for another five, maybe ten, years.

To put things in a bit of perspective, let me tell you a quick story-

Several years ago, long before No Credit Needed time, I owned a little blue car, a sedan.  It was a nice car, it handled well, and had no major mechanical issues.  One day, as I was driving down the road, I heard a strange noise.  When I arrived home and inspected the car, I found that there was a problem with the rear tire on the passenger’s side.  I also noticed that the right-rear brake-light had gone out.  Instead of fixing the tire (or just buying a whole new set) and replacing the brake-light (a 5-minute job that might have cost me \$5) – I traded the car and financed the purchase of a brand new SUV.

That’s right.  I didn’t want to deal with two very minor repairs – so I went into debt – simply to avoid a little hassle.  It makes me cringe, even now, thinking about the foolishness of that decision.  Alas, I was young, convinced that I could make the payments, and looking for excuses to upgrade.  I found the excuses (very lame excuses), and I made a poor financial decision.

The good news is, after years of not-so-bright decision making, I managed to get my act together, turn things around, get out of debt, and move forward.  I don’t want to even think about where I’d be, right now, had I not come to my senses.

By the way – I’m not saying that I’ll never buy a newer (or even new) automobile.  In fact, a few years ago, I purchased a slightly used minivan for our family.  However, there was a major difference between the SUV purchase and the minivan purchase.  The SUV purchase was ill-planned, silly, and required taking on an unwise amount of debt.  The minivan purchase was well-planned, justified, and made with cash.  The day after I purchased the SUV – I felt immediate buyer’s remorse.  The day after I purchased the minivan – I felt a sense of accomplishment.

Each time I take it for a spin, I’m reminded of the fact that my old truck is paid for.  The title, tucked away safely, has my name on it.  Humble though it may be, it gets me safely from point A to point B, and that’s really what’s important.  Divorced from any notion that I-am-what-I-drive, I’m free to focus my time (and my finances) on more important things.

## Can I Rent A Car Without A Credit Card?

Can I rent a car without a credit card?  What if I need to rent an automobile but I want to use a debit card or cash?  I did a bit of research and have linked to various car rental services and their policies.  Information updated December 17, 2014.

This information is provided in summary form and you should conduct your own research before using any of the companies listed.  Information is subject to change at anytime.  (Emphasis added)

From the Hertz FAQs site:

Debit Card Policy-

Q: Can I use my Debit Card or Bank Card to reserve a Hertz car?

A: At most Hertz locations, debit cards (sometimes called check cards) issued under a VISA or Mastercard logo which draw funds directly from the cardholder’s account may be used to qualify for rental. However, prepaid or stored value cards which have a VISA or Mastercard logo are not accepted to qualify for rental. Debit cards must have available funds for the estimated amount of the rental charges plus a reasonable amount to cover any incidental charges in order to secure the rental. Both debit cards and prepaid or stored value cards issued under a VISA or Mastercard logo may be used as a form of payment when you return the vehicle. Please contact your local Hertz Reservations Office if you have a question about whether Hertz will accept a certain card.

Cash Policy-

Q: What can I do if I do not have a credit or debit card in my name?

A: Cash Rentals are accepted with a Cash Deposit ID Card. Applications for a Cash Deposit ID Card are available from your local Hertz Office. Applicant must be 18 years or older and the application process takes approximately 30 days. There is a \$15USD nonrefundable processing fee. A Hertz Cash deposit ID Card may be used at a Hertz Location.

From the Enterprise Website

Debit Card Policy-

Debit Cards, Prepaid cards and other forms of payment: Although you may use a debit card, prepaid card, or other form of payment to pay for the final charges on the vehicle, if you reserve a vehicle through this website, you will need to provide a major credit card at the time of the rental to secure the rental transaction. A major credit card is a card that is supported by a pre-determined line of credit, and not a bank account, or a pre-paid balance.

Some Enterprise Rent-A-Car locations may accept debit cards, pre-paid cards, or other forms of payment to secure the rental transaction. To reserve a vehicle without a major credit card, please contact the local office directly.

Airport Locations:

When renting in the US: Debit Cards will be accepted with proof of a round trip travel ticket (airline,cruise ship or train) at time of rental.

In Canada, a credit card in the name of the renter must be presented at the time of pickup. Debit/Check cards are not accepted. At the time of return payment, money orders, traveler’s checks, or a major credit card are accepted. Canadian based Debit Cards are not accepted at either the time of rental or at the time of return.

From the Avis FAQs

Debit Card / Cash Policies-

Debit Card Policies

Most U.S. locations accept bank debit cards with the Visa or MasterCard logo as credit identification at the time of rental if you are at least 25 years of age. In most cases, U.S. locations will perform a credit check for debit card renters to determine credit worthiness at the time of rental. The renter must meet Avis’ minimum criteria in order to rent. Currently, at all U.S. and Canada locations, debit cards are not acceptable as credit identification at the time of rental for all makes and models identified in the Avis Signature Series and for certain other premium vehicles. Debit cards are also not acceptable as credit identification at the time of rental at locations in the Metropolitan NY Tri-State area, Hartford, CT, Philadelphia area, Mississippi or Louisiana locations as well as other locations across the country. Canada locations do not accept bank debit cards as a form of credit identification. Debit Cards are acceptable for payment at the completion of your rental.

Also be advised that some Avis locations do not accept debit cards as a form of payment. Upon paying your rental with a Debit Card, Avis will generally request an authorization hold against your account for the estimated charges of the rental but reserves the right in its sole discretion to request extra value based on certain factors as we deem appropriate. Some exceptions may apply. THESE FUNDS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR YOUR USE. When the rental is over we will process the reversal but the bank may take time to post it back to the account.

If you fail to return the vehicle as agreed, Avis will obtain additional authorizations from your account to cover the rental charges.

Avis is not responsible for any returned checks or over-drafts based on this policy.

This policy applies to both U.S. residents and foreign renters. Positive identification in addition to your driver’s license may be required.

In the United States, debit, cash or check cards can be used at the end of the rental for payment of rental charges. For acceptable credit identification and payment methods in countries outside of the U.S., please search for the specific location’s Terms and Conditions.

Note: Prepaid debit/gift cards are not acceptable methods of credit identification to pick up a car at any location. One of the above mentioned cards must be presented. Prepaid debit/gift cards are accepted at time of return only.

From the Budget Website

Debit Card Policy-

Credit and Debit Card Rules

Generally, at the time of a U.S. rental, we’ll require a credit card hold of total estimated charges plus 25% or \$200, whichever is greater. If you’re using a debit card at a location that accepts them, we’ll require a hold of total estimated charges plus 25% or \$300, whichever is greater. However, for insurance/service replacement rentals and tour rentals, the minimum debit card authorization hold is \$100. At select locations in the Northeast and North Central regions, the minimum authorization hold is \$500. Renters under 25 years of age may not use a debit card. Look at the terms and conditions on your reservation confirmations for the deposit required at your specific rental location. Some select locations do not accept debit cards at time of rental to release the vehicle, but do accept debit cards for payment at time of car return.

From the National Website

Debit / Cash Policies –

Q: What methods of payment are accepted for deposits? How can I pay at the end of my rental?

Credit Cards:

The credit card must be presented with available credit, in the renter’s name. The signature must match the name imprinted on the card. In addition, if the renter has an online transaction, the number and name printed on the card presented by renter must match the name and number stored for the online transaction. To change credit card on file update your profile.

Credit Cards honored: American Express®, MasterCard®, VISA®, Discover® Network, and JCB

Canada: The following credit cards are accepted for rentals in Canada: American Express®, MasterCard®, VISA®, and Discover® Network

Puerto Rico:The following credit cards are accepted for rentals in Puerto Rico: American Express, MasterCard, VISA, Diners Club and Discover Network.

Debit Cards:

Debit/check cards are considered to be any non-credit card bearing the VISA, MasterCard or Discover Card logo. Any other non-credit card without the VISA, MasterCard or Discover Card logo is not accepted.

When renting in the US, a credit card in the name of the renter must be presented at the time of rental; otherwise, Debit/Check cards are accepted along with proof of a confirmed round trip travel ticket (airline, cruise ship or train). Without proof of roundtrip ticket, debit or check cards are only accepted as a form of payment at time of return.

Puerto Rico, a credit card in the name of the renter must be presented at the time of rental. Debit/check cards are only accepted for payment at time of return.

In Canada, a credit card in the name of the renter must be presented at the time of rental.

US bank issued Debit/Check cards are accepted as a form of payment at return provided they DO NOT require a Personnel Identification Number (PIN).
Canadian bank issued Debit/Check cards that require the use of a PIN are NOT accepted as a form of payment.
Cash:

Not all locations accept cash. Cash rentals may be accommodated for economy through full-size vehicles.

Please review the following key points regarding cash rentals:

Renter must meet locations rental requirements including but not limited to:

Verifiable proof of employment
Verifiable home/cell phone and/or utilities in renter’s name
Verifiable return transportation
Deposit in the amount of the calculated rental charges plus an additional amount (up to \$500) may be required.
Renters may use cash as form of final payment upon return of the vehicle.
For rentals in Canada, only customers on a pre-paid tour or renting on corporate accounts that have negotiated the option to use cash are allowed to use cash to qualify for a rental.

Is considered a gift certificate bearing the Visa, MasterCard or American Express logo. National only accepts gift cards for final payment upon return of the rental vehicle. Gift cards are not acceptable as a form of deposit. Gift Cards are not accepted in Latin America or the Caribbean.

Money Orders:

National will accept money orders as a form of payment. They are handled in the same manner as a cash rental.

Virtual Credit Cards:

National does not accept online-only, virtual credit cards or any other type of “single-use” card number security product or one-time use credit card number that may be provided by credit card companies for online use.

National shall not assume responsibility or liability in connection with the use of on-line only, virtual credit cards or any other type of “single-use” card number security product or one-time use credit card number that may be provided by credit card companies for online transactions. National shall have no obligation to honor transactions made with such cards.

Summary:

Almost every major rental car agency WILL rent a car without a credit card.  Most, however, will place a “hold” on your debit card for the full rental price, plus, in most cases, an added deposit.

When it comes to payment, most will accept a debit card as payment when you return the automobile.  Available options appear to be:

A) Reserve the car with a company that allows you to use a debit card.  If you do this, be sure that you bank account has a sufficient amount to cover the deposit, the hold, and any other charges that you might incur.

B) RESERVE the car using your credit card and PAY for the car rental using cash or your debit card.

While I do not use a credit card to make purchases, I do carry one in my wallet.  If necessary, for the security of my family, I would use the credit card to reserve a car and then pay cash for the rental when I returned the car.

Before renting an automobile, understand a company’s policies.  Do your own research and call ahead if you have questions.  While I was compiling this information, I did not take into account ANY insurance-related policies.

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