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	<title>Comments on: Developing Strategies To Remain Debt Free - Strategy 1 In The Series</title>
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	<description>Debt Reduction Rocks - We Are Living Debt Free!</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find a great motivator to remain debt free is too think about how short lived any feeling from purchasing something lasts, compared the the pain of paying it off. I therefore find it a better long term feeling to save and pay in cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find a great motivator to remain debt free is too think about how short lived any feeling from purchasing something lasts, compared the the pain of paying it off. I therefore find it a better long term feeling to save and pay in cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

The decision on Roth vs. Traditional IRA can be tricky, but you are correct to point out that it is when you want your tax burden.  With the Roth plans (which now include both IRAs and some 401(k) plans) you pay taxes now.  With the traditional plans (most 401(k)s and 403(b)s), you pay them later.

Many people will - in retirement - live on less annual income than they do now.  They have no kids, no house payment, no insurance, etc.  So, a 100K income earner might only need 70k in retirement to have the same standard of living.  In that case, the traditional plan works better since the tax burden is lower.

However, if you are really savvy and expect to have a lot of investments, and a lot of wealth, then you may find that you will have a higher income in retirement - and that you want to enjoy it.  That makes the Roth plans better since you've already paid taxes.

Personally, I'm doing a hybrid.  I am fully funding (10K) the Roth IRA plans, and putting another 7k in the traditional 401(k).   The reason I'm putting more in the Roth now is that I've been heavily invested in the traditional for many years, but just started with the Roth.  

The other reason to like the Roth over the 401(k) specifically, is the options.  WIth a personal Roth account, you get all the market as potential investments.  In the 401(k), you just have the company choices.  

So, to go back to the list, I would redo it slightly:

1) Fund tax-favored company retirement plan to maximum match (typically 3-5%)
2) Fully fund personal IRA account (Roth preferred, but Traditional okay)
3) Assuming you haven't gotten to 15-20% of your income in retirement yet, fund tax-favored company plan to that level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>The decision on Roth vs. Traditional IRA can be tricky, but you are correct to point out that it is when you want your tax burden.  With the Roth plans (which now include both IRAs and some 401(k) plans) you pay taxes now.  With the traditional plans (most 401(k)s and 403(b)s), you pay them later.</p>
<p>Many people will - in retirement - live on less annual income than they do now.  They have no kids, no house payment, no insurance, etc.  So, a 100K income earner might only need 70k in retirement to have the same standard of living.  In that case, the traditional plan works better since the tax burden is lower.</p>
<p>However, if you are really savvy and expect to have a lot of investments, and a lot of wealth, then you may find that you will have a higher income in retirement - and that you want to enjoy it.  That makes the Roth plans better since you&#8217;ve already paid taxes.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m doing a hybrid.  I am fully funding (10K) the Roth IRA plans, and putting another 7k in the traditional 401(k).   The reason I&#8217;m putting more in the Roth now is that I&#8217;ve been heavily invested in the traditional for many years, but just started with the Roth.  </p>
<p>The other reason to like the Roth over the 401(k) specifically, is the options.  WIth a personal Roth account, you get all the market as potential investments.  In the 401(k), you just have the company choices.  </p>
<p>So, to go back to the list, I would redo it slightly:</p>
<p>1) Fund tax-favored company retirement plan to maximum match (typically 3-5%)<br />
2) Fully fund personal IRA account (Roth preferred, but Traditional okay)<br />
3) Assuming you haven&#8217;t gotten to 15-20% of your income in retirement yet, fund tax-favored company plan to that level.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and 1st strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and 1st strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debt free always, that's the best way to not only to gain financial stability but also to get a piece of mind. It's not easy though when we are bombarded with commercial after commercial about products that we don't really need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debt free always, that&#8217;s the best way to not only to gain financial stability but also to get a piece of mind. It&#8217;s not easy though when we are bombarded with commercial after commercial about products that we don&#8217;t really need.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would make #1 fully fund 403(b) up to the match, then make fully funding the Roth #2.  Shouldn't the question be will your tax rate be higher or lower when you retire?  We currently live in a time with historically low tax rates.  It's likely taxes will be raised to pay for entitlement programs for the retiring baby boomers.   Therefore I'd rather pay taxes now then later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would make #1 fully fund 403(b) up to the match, then make fully funding the Roth #2.  Shouldn&#8217;t the question be will your tax rate be higher or lower when you retire?  We currently live in a time with historically low tax rates.  It&#8217;s likely taxes will be raised to pay for entitlement programs for the retiring baby boomers.   Therefore I&#8217;d rather pay taxes now then later.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott @ The Passive Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott @ The Passive Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful that you have documented your goals and prioritized them.  As for #1 minimizing taxes, do you have a personal business or can you write off your blog as a business?  Since you have advertising income and expenses like office, electricity, and internet, can you write these off?  This should help reduce your tax rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful that you have documented your goals and prioritized them.  As for #1 minimizing taxes, do you have a personal business or can you write off your blog as a business?  Since you have advertising income and expenses like office, electricity, and internet, can you write these off?  This should help reduce your tax rate.</p>
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		<title>By: DivaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivaJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am rarely "in debt." Credit cards are used rarely- and when they are, they are paid off when the bill comes. I can't think of when I last used credit for anything-- maybe last year for a hotel overnight stay---or a few items at Xmas time shopping. Oh- and ebay/paypal-- maybe three months ago. So you see how rare it is! Remaining debt free is easy if you don't buy much.

I owe about $46K on my $110K home and as a family, we are trying to get that paid off early. We have a 15 year loan and are on year 5. We think we'll be able to swing getting it paid off within the next 5 years if all goes well and the creeks don't rise (my mom's expression). Once that happens- I'll have about 5 years to get ready for kidlets and college. Not that we aren't already saving- but with the mortgage out of the way, it will be infinately easier.

My family of 6 lives on my modest income alone- hubby stays home with the kidlets and devotes her time to shopping smart, keeping the house in order, growing our veggies in the garden and when school is in- doing the bigger home projects so we don't have to pay others for the work. We put 15% of my income in an untouchable, its-the-3rd-rail, save for retirement 401K with 5% of my income matched by my employer (so basically 20%). 3 out of 4 kids warrant a monthly stipend from the state (we adopted from fostering). This is divided by 4 and goes into their college savings plans--except a few hundred dollars/year for scouting, day camp, music lessons thru the school, or other learning experiences we all agree on. 

I think we have our goals and money management well laid out- even though we don't work a "budget" per se. We are so tight on the pennies, Lincoln cries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am rarely &#8220;in debt.&#8221; Credit cards are used rarely- and when they are, they are paid off when the bill comes. I can&#8217;t think of when I last used credit for anything&#8211; maybe last year for a hotel overnight stay&#8212;or a few items at Xmas time shopping. Oh- and ebay/paypal&#8211; maybe three months ago. So you see how rare it is! Remaining debt free is easy if you don&#8217;t buy much.</p>
<p>I owe about $46K on my $110K home and as a family, we are trying to get that paid off early. We have a 15 year loan and are on year 5. We think we&#8217;ll be able to swing getting it paid off within the next 5 years if all goes well and the creeks don&#8217;t rise (my mom&#8217;s expression). Once that happens- I&#8217;ll have about 5 years to get ready for kidlets and college. Not that we aren&#8217;t already saving- but with the mortgage out of the way, it will be infinately easier.</p>
<p>My family of 6 lives on my modest income alone- hubby stays home with the kidlets and devotes her time to shopping smart, keeping the house in order, growing our veggies in the garden and when school is in- doing the bigger home projects so we don&#8217;t have to pay others for the work. We put 15% of my income in an untouchable, its-the-3rd-rail, save for retirement 401K with 5% of my income matched by my employer (so basically 20%). 3 out of 4 kids warrant a monthly stipend from the state (we adopted from fostering). This is divided by 4 and goes into their college savings plans&#8211;except a few hundred dollars/year for scouting, day camp, music lessons thru the school, or other learning experiences we all agree on. </p>
<p>I think we have our goals and money management well laid out- even though we don&#8217;t work a &#8220;budget&#8221; per se. We are so tight on the pennies, Lincoln cries.</p>
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		<title>By: Moneymonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moneymonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always said that becoming debt free is easier than REMAINING debt free</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always said that becoming debt free is easier than REMAINING debt free</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up a great point. 93% of people fall back into debt within 12 months of becoming debt free.  By realizing this, we can take steps to prevent the same patterns from repeating. Your post has a lot of good ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up a great point. 93% of people fall back into debt within 12 months of becoming debt free.  By realizing this, we can take steps to prevent the same patterns from repeating. Your post has a lot of good ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Guzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn Guzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this first strategy; I hope I don't miss the next installment.  You have such good ideas.  If they are implemented, everyone will be debt free.  I have a question though.  Why buy a home with cash when you can make the interest tax deductible? Thank you for all the information.

Evelyn Guzman
&lt;a href="http://www.debtchallenges.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Debt Challenger&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this first strategy; I hope I don&#8217;t miss the next installment.  You have such good ideas.  If they are implemented, everyone will be debt free.  I have a question though.  Why buy a home with cash when you can make the interest tax deductible? Thank you for all the information.</p>
<p>Evelyn Guzman<br />
<a href="http://www.debtchallenges.com" rel="nofollow">Debt Challenger</a></p>
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