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		<title>By: I Just Purchased A Minivan - Here&#8217;s How I Purchased Our Used (But New-To-Us) Vehicle Without Borrowing Any Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Just Purchased A Minivan - Here&#8217;s How I Purchased Our Used (But New-To-Us) Vehicle Without Borrowing Any Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just finished finalizing a deal for a newer minivan.  As I mentioned a few weeks ago, the transmission in my current minivan is dying - and I&#8217;ve been looking for a good deal on a newer (slightly used) model that I can afford to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just finished finalizing a deal for a newer minivan.  As I mentioned a few weeks ago, the transmission in my current minivan is dying &#8211; and I&#8217;ve been looking for a good deal on a newer (slightly used) model that I can afford to [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: figure monthly mortgage payment</title>
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		<dc:creator>figure monthly mortgage payment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BradM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do fix the transmission, find a reputable transmission place.  Wouldn&#039;t want an inexperienced person doing transmission work.  I rebuilt one in my blazer and got a 1 year warranty on it and they offered assistance in multiple cities if there was problems.  
Everything else seemed pretty minor. 
This would be the priority list if fixed:
Get the transmission fixed, I would be tempted to rebuild the thing if you need to do any work to it.
Cooler fan module.
Everything else sounded like it was dry-rotted or wore out.
Not sure what the cooler lines are?
Sway bar links....may just need grease if any hasn&#039;t been added for a while.  If you take your car to get the oil change ask them to grease the chassis once/year.
But if you neglected these links for years, it MAY need replacing, but wouldn&#039;t think so.   
Struts may just be wore out...they can last until you decide to get rid of the car.  It would just give you a better ride.  
Belt may be dry-rotted...it will have cracks in it and fairly simple to replace.
Seriously doubt the idler pulley and the tensioner needs replacing.  
Instrument Cluster? What about it?  Couple bulbs out or something else?  Sceptacle about this one.  Heard of a couple of folks that had their whole electrical problems fixed when they replaced the instrument cluster.  May look online and see if this is a re-occurring problem on this vehicle.
Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do fix the transmission, find a reputable transmission place.  Wouldn&#8217;t want an inexperienced person doing transmission work.  I rebuilt one in my blazer and got a 1 year warranty on it and they offered assistance in multiple cities if there was problems.<br />
Everything else seemed pretty minor.<br />
This would be the priority list if fixed:<br />
Get the transmission fixed, I would be tempted to rebuild the thing if you need to do any work to it.<br />
Cooler fan module.<br />
Everything else sounded like it was dry-rotted or wore out.<br />
Not sure what the cooler lines are?<br />
Sway bar links&#8230;.may just need grease if any hasn&#8217;t been added for a while.  If you take your car to get the oil change ask them to grease the chassis once/year.<br />
But if you neglected these links for years, it MAY need replacing, but wouldn&#8217;t think so.<br />
Struts may just be wore out&#8230;they can last until you decide to get rid of the car.  It would just give you a better ride.<br />
Belt may be dry-rotted&#8230;it will have cracks in it and fairly simple to replace.<br />
Seriously doubt the idler pulley and the tensioner needs replacing.<br />
Instrument Cluster? What about it?  Couple bulbs out or something else?  Sceptacle about this one.  Heard of a couple of folks that had their whole electrical problems fixed when they replaced the instrument cluster.  May look online and see if this is a re-occurring problem on this vehicle.<br />
Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, only two grand (much less when you get away from the dealer)?  Get it fixed, and you&#039;ll likely get at least 3 more years out of it!  And I&#039;d run, not walk from a dealer that recommends the customer trades in their vehicle when they bring it in for repairs.

I mean come on!  If it is in such bad shape why would they want it?  Think about it!

Fix the van and keep it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, only two grand (much less when you get away from the dealer)?  Get it fixed, and you&#8217;ll likely get at least 3 more years out of it!  And I&#8217;d run, not walk from a dealer that recommends the customer trades in their vehicle when they bring it in for repairs.</p>
<p>I mean come on!  If it is in such bad shape why would they want it?  Think about it!</p>
<p>Fix the van and keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kakaras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Kakaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me in this: Cars are NEVER the same after that type of major repair.  You will not get your money&#039;s worth out of it.

Get a slightly used car/van (obviously) that is reliable for your family.  No reason to take a big risk when it comes to family in your death van (only kidding).

Great stuff, glad you posed a question so we all could &quot;evaluate&quot; what we would do in the situation.

I have been a faithful follower of yours for some time now.  If you get some time check out www.chriskakaras.com (it is a personal finance advice site updated daily).

Good luck with the car situation.  God Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me in this: Cars are NEVER the same after that type of major repair.  You will not get your money&#8217;s worth out of it.</p>
<p>Get a slightly used car/van (obviously) that is reliable for your family.  No reason to take a big risk when it comes to family in your death van (only kidding).</p>
<p>Great stuff, glad you posed a question so we all could &#8220;evaluate&#8221; what we would do in the situation.</p>
<p>I have been a faithful follower of yours for some time now.  If you get some time check out <a href="http://www.chriskakaras.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chriskakaras.com</a> (it is a personal finance advice site updated daily).</p>
<p>Good luck with the car situation.  God Bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;15 other things wrong with the car&quot;... NCN, $2,000 sounds about right for a new dealer transmission swap considering the labor on a FWD van, since they probably need to pull the engine.

But there are other options. You could have the tranny rebuilt, for example, which (can be) much cheaper - but you will have to find a good non-dealer mechanic for that. Dealers can swap parts but I don&#039;t think they can do much else.

I agree with Changing is Living, your car is still young. You should only trade it if you really do want a new(er) car.

Some items on your list...

transmission unit: what exactly is wrong with it? how is it behaving? can you tell something is wrong, or did they just tell you its dying? simple things, like being low on fluid, can make it skip shifts, etc.

cooler lines: the tranny cooler lines? these will probably be replaced with the new tranny anyway. Heck they will probably be included with the new unit. If you just need new coolant hoses (which need to be replaced regularly - if it hasn&#039;t been done on a 134k car, do it!) that&#039;s a great way to get started doing your own repairs and the guys at a parts store will be happy to help you figure it out. You literally just need a pair of pliers and 10 minutes, and it will save you a ton of money.

struts: go to a suspension place and have them do it. if for no other reason than the dealer part is 2-3 times more expensive than the same aftermarket part.

sway bar links: does the vehicle feel different on turns? do you have any clunking? the bushings could be bad, not untypical on a 135k car.

instrument cluster: do any gauges on your car not work? this one has me scratching my head as it would be pretty obvious if your instrument cluster wasn&#039;t working.

belt: this needs to be replaced according to regular service, so check the last time you did it - you definitely want to get this done, but I don&#039;t know if I would want to pay dealer labor for such a simple job...a lot of those oil change guys will replace this.

tensioner, idler pulley: what did they say was wrong exactly? they might just need some grease (the tensioner is also a pulley and it basically keeps your drive belt right). do they just want to adjust the tensioner? that has to be done with a belt replacement anyway!

coolant fan module: is the coolant fan not working? I think you would notice because you would be overheating at traffic lights. I recently replaced my module...because my fan wasn&#039;t running! turn on your vehicle and watch to see if your fan kicks in after it warms up. if it does, and you&#039;re not overheating, I don&#039;t see why they want to replace this.

“advise customer to trade“: Of course it does...you trade it for a few pennies, they fix everything for next to nothing and sell it for a huge profit, plus sell you a car from their floor!

Here&#039;s a couple of stories: My mother&#039;s door hinge was popping. When I visited her I noticed the pin holding the door strap to the hinge had slipped out. I popped it back in and all was well. Several months later it happened again (when I was not in town) - what she NEEDED was either 2 small caps on both sides of the pin to hold it in place, or to replace it with a small nut&amp;bolt - about 50 cents and 5 minutes of labor either way. So she went to the dealer, a reputable one, and what did they say? She needed a whole new door and hinge. All parts and labor, welding, plus repaint would have cost $5k. She traded it in for a new car instead.

About 4 months ago my fan went out (unrelated to my failed module) and thanks to a recall, I could get a new one for free - but I had to let the dealer do the work. My car is in excellent condition (115k miles, 2000) and you guessed it - they had about a dozen &quot;necessary&quot; repairs. Of course I personally inspected each thing they mentioned and they were full of it.

For all we know you may not have maintained it and the thing is falling apart :-D ...but just based on my experience, there probably isn&#039;t half of the things wrong with it that the dealer is telling you. More info is needed to give you any good suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;15 other things wrong with the car&#8221;&#8230; NCN, $2,000 sounds about right for a new dealer transmission swap considering the labor on a FWD van, since they probably need to pull the engine.</p>
<p>But there are other options. You could have the tranny rebuilt, for example, which (can be) much cheaper &#8211; but you will have to find a good non-dealer mechanic for that. Dealers can swap parts but I don&#8217;t think they can do much else.</p>
<p>I agree with Changing is Living, your car is still young. You should only trade it if you really do want a new(er) car.</p>
<p>Some items on your list&#8230;</p>
<p>transmission unit: what exactly is wrong with it? how is it behaving? can you tell something is wrong, or did they just tell you its dying? simple things, like being low on fluid, can make it skip shifts, etc.</p>
<p>cooler lines: the tranny cooler lines? these will probably be replaced with the new tranny anyway. Heck they will probably be included with the new unit. If you just need new coolant hoses (which need to be replaced regularly &#8211; if it hasn&#8217;t been done on a 134k car, do it!) that&#8217;s a great way to get started doing your own repairs and the guys at a parts store will be happy to help you figure it out. You literally just need a pair of pliers and 10 minutes, and it will save you a ton of money.</p>
<p>struts: go to a suspension place and have them do it. if for no other reason than the dealer part is 2-3 times more expensive than the same aftermarket part.</p>
<p>sway bar links: does the vehicle feel different on turns? do you have any clunking? the bushings could be bad, not untypical on a 135k car.</p>
<p>instrument cluster: do any gauges on your car not work? this one has me scratching my head as it would be pretty obvious if your instrument cluster wasn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>belt: this needs to be replaced according to regular service, so check the last time you did it &#8211; you definitely want to get this done, but I don&#8217;t know if I would want to pay dealer labor for such a simple job&#8230;a lot of those oil change guys will replace this.</p>
<p>tensioner, idler pulley: what did they say was wrong exactly? they might just need some grease (the tensioner is also a pulley and it basically keeps your drive belt right). do they just want to adjust the tensioner? that has to be done with a belt replacement anyway!</p>
<p>coolant fan module: is the coolant fan not working? I think you would notice because you would be overheating at traffic lights. I recently replaced my module&#8230;because my fan wasn&#8217;t running! turn on your vehicle and watch to see if your fan kicks in after it warms up. if it does, and you&#8217;re not overheating, I don&#8217;t see why they want to replace this.</p>
<p>“advise customer to trade“: Of course it does&#8230;you trade it for a few pennies, they fix everything for next to nothing and sell it for a huge profit, plus sell you a car from their floor!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple of stories: My mother&#8217;s door hinge was popping. When I visited her I noticed the pin holding the door strap to the hinge had slipped out. I popped it back in and all was well. Several months later it happened again (when I was not in town) &#8211; what she NEEDED was either 2 small caps on both sides of the pin to hold it in place, or to replace it with a small nut&amp;bolt &#8211; about 50 cents and 5 minutes of labor either way. So she went to the dealer, a reputable one, and what did they say? She needed a whole new door and hinge. All parts and labor, welding, plus repaint would have cost $5k. She traded it in for a new car instead.</p>
<p>About 4 months ago my fan went out (unrelated to my failed module) and thanks to a recall, I could get a new one for free &#8211; but I had to let the dealer do the work. My car is in excellent condition (115k miles, 2000) and you guessed it &#8211; they had about a dozen &#8220;necessary&#8221; repairs. Of course I personally inspected each thing they mentioned and they were full of it.</p>
<p>For all we know you may not have maintained it and the thing is falling apart <img src='http://www.ncnblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;but just based on my experience, there probably isn&#8217;t half of the things wrong with it that the dealer is telling you. More info is needed to give you any good suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a 2nd opinion, then spend $2K to fix the van if it will add another 20,000 miles of usefulness. $2K now on a vehicle that&#039;s paid for beats ongoing payments, with our without interst. And you can start saving now for the next vehicle and be able to pay cash for it.

I once traded a paid-for car for a brand-spankin&#039; new truck because I didn&#039;t want to pay for brake work on the paid-for car. Yeah, I was just outta college.

Of the dumb things I&#039;ve done, it&#039;s right near the top.

I guess what I&#039;m saying is, fix the van.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a 2nd opinion, then spend $2K to fix the van if it will add another 20,000 miles of usefulness. $2K now on a vehicle that&#8217;s paid for beats ongoing payments, with our without interst. And you can start saving now for the next vehicle and be able to pay cash for it.</p>
<p>I once traded a paid-for car for a brand-spankin&#8217; new truck because I didn&#8217;t want to pay for brake work on the paid-for car. Yeah, I was just outta college.</p>
<p>Of the dumb things I&#8217;ve done, it&#8217;s right near the top.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m saying is, fix the van.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Yount</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber Yount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a second opinion. Dealerships ALWAYS rack up &quot;other things&quot; to try and get money. It could be something simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a second opinion. Dealerships ALWAYS rack up &#8220;other things&#8221; to try and get money. It could be something simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what you get when you don&#039;t take care of your car and follow the maintenance schedule in the owner&#039;s manual.</description>
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